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what's secretary kerry's main priority in dealing with sergey lavrov? >> reporter: that's right, wolf. they're just wrapping up their third meeting of the day, and now secretary kerry will be huddling with the french, the german, the british foreign ministers all in an effort to try and get some diplomatic process going. and deescalate the situation. his single sales objective for the russian foreign minister is to get him to sit down with the ukrainian foreign minister. as we know, the ukrainian foreign minister flew with secretary kerry to kiev last night, waiting all day, wants to sit down with the russian foreign minister, try and get some dialogue going. try and deescalate the situation. but so far, foreign minister lavrov is not biting, wolf. >> so we expect they will come out and hold a joint news conference, or kerry will have his own news conference. do we know? >> reporter: well, secretary kerry's news conference was supposed to start about 15 minutes ago. but he just wrapped up his meeting with foreign minister lavrov and now going over to th
what's secretary kerry's main priority in dealing with sergey lavrov? >> reporter: that's right, wolf. they're just wrapping up their third meeting of the day, and now secretary kerry will be huddling with the french, the german, the british foreign ministers all in an effort to try and get some diplomatic process going. and deescalate the situation. his single sales objective for the russian foreign minister is to get him to sit down with the ukrainian foreign minister. as we know, the...
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we do not expect to hear from sergey lavrov. secretary kerry said he'll take all of this back to the white house and he hopes in the days forward that they may be on a path towards getting this situation under control. russia has invaded the south of ukraine. it has taken over the military installations there, it has taken over many of the government institutions, it's taken over a missile defense shield system location there today. it, in essence, runs it. you don't see it on the streets, but it is a fact. and it would appear, at least for the moment, after this meeting tonight, that the united states and europe can't do anything about it, at least for now. so where did all of this begin? it began in 1994. ukraine was a nuclear nation after breakup of the soviet union. then three parties got together to sign an agreement. they were russia, the united states, and great britain. and think all said, in essence, we're not going to try to gain any advantage by working for or against ukraine. we're going to respect their territorial
we do not expect to hear from sergey lavrov. secretary kerry said he'll take all of this back to the white house and he hopes in the days forward that they may be on a path towards getting this situation under control. russia has invaded the south of ukraine. it has taken over the military installations there, it has taken over many of the government institutions, it's taken over a missile defense shield system location there today. it, in essence, runs it. you don't see it on the streets, but...
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john kerry and sergei lavrov are due to meet in paris. they are meant to talk about syria, but no doubt ukraine will fig fighture. ukrainian soldiers, meanwhile, have been, in some says forced to choose sides. jennifer glasse reports from sevastopol. >> if there's somewhere where the russians have full control, it's here at sevastopol. ships of the black sea fleet halt all traffic, draining all life from this otherwise thriving port. if the russian's intentions is to take over ukrainian military instillations, it is not over yet. ukrainian servicemen refuse to yield to the russian show of force. >> the russians take position in front of this army base. we spoke to some of the ukrainian servicemen through the gate. they said they had not received an ultimatum. they said they had no intention to vender the base because they had pledged loyalty to ukraine, and said that they hoped it would be solved peacefully. the soldiers are digging in for the long haul. relying on the support of relatives to keep them going while politicians reach a comp
john kerry and sergei lavrov are due to meet in paris. they are meant to talk about syria, but no doubt ukraine will fig fighture. ukrainian soldiers, meanwhile, have been, in some says forced to choose sides. jennifer glasse reports from sevastopol. >> if there's somewhere where the russians have full control, it's here at sevastopol. ships of the black sea fleet halt all traffic, draining all life from this otherwise thriving port. if the russian's intentions is to take over ukrainian...
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sergey lavrov of russia and john kerry face-to-face in something called a pullout meeting. something that happened on the sidelines of something all together different in paris. some discussions had nothing made public. but there is one thing that the secretary of state of the united states is urging, and that is direct talks between russia and the ukraine. joining me to put these pieces together, cnn's chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. let's start right there on the diplomatic front, because that seems to be where most of the action is right now. the secretary of state pushing for these talks between russia and ukraine. do we have any clue whether russia is the least bit interested and whether ukraine is the least bit interested? >> reporter: well, it's a start that they're talking, right? because this has been something that hasn't happened. there have been a lot of unreturned phone calls from u.s. officials to their russian counterparts, but also a refusal on the russian side to meet with the ukrainan government at all. they say the legitimate governmen
sergey lavrov of russia and john kerry face-to-face in something called a pullout meeting. something that happened on the sidelines of something all together different in paris. some discussions had nothing made public. but there is one thing that the secretary of state of the united states is urging, and that is direct talks between russia and the ukraine. joining me to put these pieces together, cnn's chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. let's start right there on the...
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secretary of state meeting with count counterpart sergey lavrov. this is the first time since the current crisis escalated that they've had a face-to-face to talk exit strategy. the ukrainian and russian governments meeting for the very first time, talking on a cabinet level today. and russian defense official is discussing ukraine later today at nato in brussels. so, there is definitely a change. whether this change is sustained is another question. back to you be. >> on the international stage the only reality that putin seems to be willing to acquiesce to is the economic reality of what this is doing in russia to their market. what's putin's next move? >> reporter: well, you're right. putin -- if there's one man who could make or break a deal, it's vladimir putin and it's obviously unclear what his next move is. washington and berlin are pushing this idea of sending international observers to monitor any rights abuses against russians or pro-russians on crimea, allowing hopefully some kind of pullback by those russian forces or pro-russian force
secretary of state meeting with count counterpart sergey lavrov. this is the first time since the current crisis escalated that they've had a face-to-face to talk exit strategy. the ukrainian and russian governments meeting for the very first time, talking on a cabinet level today. and russian defense official is discussing ukraine later today at nato in brussels. so, there is definitely a change. whether this change is sustained is another question. back to you be. >> on the...
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he'll hold face-to-face talks with sergei lavrov. lavrov claiming there are no russian troops on the ground in crimea. >>> the black sea fleet is blocking all traffic in the crimean area. >>> the west virginia state house will vote on a water protection bill to try to prevent another chemical spill like the one that can tom nated the water in january. if passed it will effect 150 water companies. ♪ >>> i'm meteorologist dave. you may not have to wait long for the return of warm weather. but it doesn't feel like that now with bitter cold air, all the way down to texas, but the warm air comes back by thursday. much warmer temperatures coming up from the south, and this is ahead of a big storm developing out of the pacific. big train of moisture here coming in from hawaii. they call this the pineapple express. a lot of moisture coming in. this will be wednesday, thursday, and friday. very heavy rain in the valleys and heavy snow in the mountains. avalanche warnings in effect because of that very heavy snow coming down quickly. and flo
he'll hold face-to-face talks with sergei lavrov. lavrov claiming there are no russian troops on the ground in crimea. >>> the black sea fleet is blocking all traffic in the crimean area. >>> the west virginia state house will vote on a water protection bill to try to prevent another chemical spill like the one that can tom nated the water in january. if passed it will effect 150 water companies. ♪ >>> i'm meteorologist dave. you may not have to wait long for the...
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that prompted a meeting between secretary kerry and sergey lavrov in paris. that meeting appears to have accomplished exactly zero. angela merkel called putin's
that prompted a meeting between secretary kerry and sergey lavrov in paris. that meeting appears to have accomplished exactly zero. angela merkel called putin's
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meeting. >> reporter: sergey lavrov is a formidable character. he's effective in effecting the agenda of his boss, vladimir putin. kerry and love roof appeared to have worked together when they mediated the chemical weapons in syria. so it should be quite a meeting. whether it will produce an ending to this you trainan crisis is remote. martha: the question of crimea is essential. some people think that situation is over. there is no way russia will pull out. lavrov will say we can't pull out. those aren't even our troops. report * th>> reporter: the ruse created paperwork to create justifications for this move and that move but they are drastically different from what the u.s. and its european allies see as legal. it's unlikely this meeting will produce a break through. gregg: russia not letting out, flexing its military muscle by test firing an intercontinental ballistic missile. the pentagon says that launch was not expected. they were not notified days in advance in accordance with the stark treaty. martha: russia saying they don't have the p
meeting. >> reporter: sergey lavrov is a formidable character. he's effective in effecting the agenda of his boss, vladimir putin. kerry and love roof appeared to have worked together when they mediated the chemical weapons in syria. so it should be quite a meeting. whether it will produce an ending to this you trainan crisis is remote. martha: the question of crimea is essential. some people think that situation is over. there is no way russia will pull out. lavrov will say we can't pull...
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lavrov. both are in paris with talks to resolve the standoff in ukraine. until then, some comments from the senate floor in the russian intervention in that country. this is from yesterday will show you as much as we can until secretary kerry gets underway. >> i wanted to come to the floor today and talk about the ongoing crisis in ukraine. i am glad senator mccain on the floor today because it is hard to describe the sensation that ot and i felt at the end of last year when we got the chance to travel to the mad dog square in kiev and talk to people. it is hard to describe a group of people yelling back to you in unison. thank you, u.s.a. thank you, u.s.a. but that was the reality we were able to experience. it is im know that senator mccain and i did not go to advocate for president yanukovich's removal, even though the process resulted in that fact. in actuait fact. in actuality, we spent two hours that night meeting with yanukovich, pleading with him to abandon plans to join the e.u. so h
lavrov. both are in paris with talks to resolve the standoff in ukraine. until then, some comments from the senate floor in the russian intervention in that country. this is from yesterday will show you as much as we can until secretary kerry gets underway. >> i wanted to come to the floor today and talk about the ongoing crisis in ukraine. i am glad senator mccain on the floor today because it is hard to describe the sensation that ot and i felt at the end of last year when we got the...
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whether sergey lavrov can give any room on that is far from clear, because he's already said that the troops who are in control down there, who have taken control in crimea, are not russians. he describes them as a self-defense force over which russia has no control. focus also today on the big e.u. meeting. european leaders in brussels, to see if they'll come forward with package, any threat of sanctions, which they've been reluctant to do so far but, of course, this development in crimea could concentrate their minds somewhat. kristen? >> all right, ian williams, thank you for that report. >>> this morning, the white house announced new measures designed to pressure russian and crimean officials. jim maceda is live in moscow with more. we're learning the white house is announcing new visa restrictions and new sanctions. how is moscow reacting this morning, jim? >> reporter: we haven't had a reaction yet, kristen, from moscow on that specifically. but just to back up a bit. this diplomatic fleurry of the last 48 hours has been about creating a united front with the united states and
whether sergey lavrov can give any room on that is far from clear, because he's already said that the troops who are in control down there, who have taken control in crimea, are not russians. he describes them as a self-defense force over which russia has no control. focus also today on the big e.u. meeting. european leaders in brussels, to see if they'll come forward with package, any threat of sanctions, which they've been reluctant to do so far but, of course, this development in crimea...
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the russian foreign secretary sergey lavrov. >> this is a question of defending our citizens and compatriots, and ensuring human rights especially the right to life. those who are trying to interpret the situation as a sort of aggression and threatening us with sanctions and boycotts, these are the same partners who have consistently been declaring ultimatums and renounce dialogue. >> now, there may be an announcement from the russian foreign ministry saying they have come here to secure human lives and russ citizens but at the same time they also carry a pretty big stick. russian president vladimir putin making a surprise inspection of troops just across the border in russia, in an area on the northern and eastern border with the ukraine. they said those war games were scheduled months ago. but obviously given the environment, nobody is confidentably looking at that. we know the ukrainian -- comfortably looking at that. border line in that area where the war games are going, the north and the east of the country, and it indicates, del, that there is a real concern here in kiev that this may
the russian foreign secretary sergey lavrov. >> this is a question of defending our citizens and compatriots, and ensuring human rights especially the right to life. those who are trying to interpret the situation as a sort of aggression and threatening us with sanctions and boycotts, these are the same partners who have consistently been declaring ultimatums and renounce dialogue. >> now, there may be an announcement from the russian foreign ministry saying they have come here to...
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on the other hand, as you heard sergei lavrov saying russia does not want bloodshed, the west saying they will treat russia as a partner on this issue. so there is scope for common ground and i guess events in paris over the next few hours will give us a pretty good sign as to whether the diplomatic tension is going to drag on or worsen within the or if there are the first chinks of light at the end of the tunnel. there's a way through with dye log? we don't know yet. >> the trial of three al jazeera journalists was resumed in egypt. the court is hearing evidence for the prosecution. peter gresta, barha mohammed red accused of terrorism. al jazeera region jackets the charges. ays is currently not allowed to report from egypt. we did manage to get this update from cnn correspondent a short while ago. >> many rights groups, many journalists say this trial is a clear message by the government they are going to cram down on any narrative that goes against the dominant narrative among authorities which is the muslim brotherhood is a terrorist organization. so, many media organizations jus
on the other hand, as you heard sergei lavrov saying russia does not want bloodshed, the west saying they will treat russia as a partner on this issue. so there is scope for common ground and i guess events in paris over the next few hours will give us a pretty good sign as to whether the diplomatic tension is going to drag on or worsen within the or if there are the first chinks of light at the end of the tunnel. there's a way through with dye log? we don't know yet. >> the trial of...
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sergei lavrov refused to speak with his ukrainian counterpart. talks continued in brussels where e.u. officials will discuss sanctions for russia. israel seized a ship carrying rockets from iran. israel has accused iran of supplying enemies. >> al jazeera journalists mohamed fadel fahmy, peter greste and mohammed badr were back in a cairo courthouse on wednesday. the case was adjourned until later this month. the three were arrested in december, accused of having links with a terrorist organization. al jazeera rejects the charges and continues to demand their refuses. >> the college board will make changes to the sats, to reflect what is study. it won't have a required essay and throw out tough vocabulary. those are the headlines. "america tonight" is next. >> on "america tonight": the diplomatic road to nowhere. the u.s. effort to get russia and ukraine face to face fails. and more tense moments on the ground as an u.n. envoy is threatened at gunpoint. also, tonight, the cost downstream, a second dose of misery for the weather-weary, the high pr
sergei lavrov refused to speak with his ukrainian counterpart. talks continued in brussels where e.u. officials will discuss sanctions for russia. israel seized a ship carrying rockets from iran. israel has accused iran of supplying enemies. >> al jazeera journalists mohamed fadel fahmy, peter greste and mohammed badr were back in a cairo courthouse on wednesday. the case was adjourned until later this month. the three were arrested in december, accused of having links with a terrorist...
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secretary of state john kerry met with his counterpart russian foreign minister sergey lavrov. the european union has come up with an aid package, $15 billion in support, after the united states offered $one billion in loan guarantees. this money is crucial because ukraine's finance ministry says there's nothing left in the country's coffers. it's all been stolen. that part is pretty clear. the question that remains, is there something being lost in translation in the talks between the united states and russia? >> russia made a choice. and we have clearly stated that we believe it is the wrong cois, thachoice, that is the choice to move troops into crimea. >> meantime, the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov, says the troops that have seized crimea aren't russian, therefore they have no control over them. to pledge allegiance to the republic of crimea. in sevastopol, jennifer glasse has been talking to the ukrainian forces there. jen. >> joie, i have to tell you about a dramatic confrontation in simferopol. just an hour's drive from here. robert serrey was here trying to as
secretary of state john kerry met with his counterpart russian foreign minister sergey lavrov. the european union has come up with an aid package, $15 billion in support, after the united states offered $one billion in loan guarantees. this money is crucial because ukraine's finance ministry says there's nothing left in the country's coffers. it's all been stolen. that part is pretty clear. the question that remains, is there something being lost in translation in the talks between the united...
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on the diplomatic front, secretary of state john kerry sat down with russia's minister sergey lavrov. president obama is working the phones and talking to ukraine with british prime minister. in crimea, the ukrainian region now under russian control. a.euna.united nations was envoys forced out of the country. >>> nick schifrin is there and has this report. >> for nearly an hour inside this cafe they barricade id u.n. onvoy robert serey. demonstrators who, try to stop our filming and whether at the cafe or at the airport they control all access. serey was driven against his will to the international terminal and walked to the flight to istanbul. ran serey out of the country. they feel empowered by the arrival of 16,000 russian troops. they are expanding their presence but not answering any questions. with my producer vodomir we asked the same question and got the same silence. consume. can i ask you where you're from? could i ask you where you're from? he tells me to step away from the car and then they drove off to head to this base. a local journalist filmed on her cell phone. the ru
on the diplomatic front, secretary of state john kerry sat down with russia's minister sergey lavrov. president obama is working the phones and talking to ukraine with british prime minister. in crimea, the ukrainian region now under russian control. a.euna.united nations was envoys forced out of the country. >>> nick schifrin is there and has this report. >> for nearly an hour inside this cafe they barricade id u.n. onvoy robert serey. demonstrators who, try to stop our filming...
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kerry med with sergey lavrov. afterwards, he spoke of hope for de-escalation of tension. >> russia made a choice. and we have clearly stated that we believe it is the wrong choice, that is the choice to move troops into crimea. russia can now choose to de-escalate this situation. and we are committed to working with russia. and together with our friends and allies in an effort to provide a way for this entire situation to find the road to de-escalation. the united states is ready to work with all parties to make that happen and to make it happen as soon as possible. >> russian president vladimir putin has also spoken to angela merkel today. if diplomacy fails, the u.s. and its allies could put in sanctions against russia in a matter of days. howard fineman and michael mcfall. he's now a fellow at the hoover institution and an msnbc analyst. mr. ambassador, it's great to the united states is ready to work with all parties to make that happen and to make it happen as soon as possible. >> russian president vladimir p
kerry med with sergey lavrov. afterwards, he spoke of hope for de-escalation of tension. >> russia made a choice. and we have clearly stated that we believe it is the wrong choice, that is the choice to move troops into crimea. russia can now choose to de-escalate this situation. and we are committed to working with russia. and together with our friends and allies in an effort to provide a way for this entire situation to find the road to de-escalation. the united states is ready to work...
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lavrov. again, no breakthrough, although body language can't argue not bad. this was the photo op anyway. finally, a picture that would seem to say it all. take a look at that, an aged warship deliberately scuttled by russian forces at the mouth of the crimea inlet blocking a fleet of ukrainian ships on the inside. i want to starthis hour at the white house. michelle, this diplomatic shot at the white house, tell me how significant this is. >> yeah, this is really a first step. and you may say it's the first step in sanctions, but we've seen small steps over the past several days beginning with remember the u.s. saying, well, we're not going to participate in meetings leading up to the g-8 and then went a step further saying we're not going to participate in trade talks or energy talks with russia. these things are important, but many analysts say what is this going to do to change the behavior russia's been on? possibly nothing at all. you saw the picture of the warship, some might call that
lavrov. again, no breakthrough, although body language can't argue not bad. this was the photo op anyway. finally, a picture that would seem to say it all. take a look at that, an aged warship deliberately scuttled by russian forces at the mouth of the crimea inlet blocking a fleet of ukrainian ships on the inside. i want to starthis hour at the white house. michelle, this diplomatic shot at the white house, tell me how significant this is. >> yeah, this is really a first step. and you...
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lavrov. the two met yesterday in paris. the secretary characterized the talks as constructive. and right now at this moment europe's 28 heads of state are huddling in brussels to discuss how far they are willing to go to punish russia. cnn's erin mclaughlin is there. we understand the eu is talking about freezing the assets of ukraine's former president, viktor yanukovych along with his closest aides. how far are these sanctions that the eu leaders are talking about now, how far are they willing to go? >> reporter: hi john. well those asset freezes that you mentioned actually began today. the question now becomes how far will europe go to put pressure on russia? now the members of the 28-member eu states arriving here in brussels. the meeting is expected to begin in about a half hour. on the table, a range of measures including the possibility of individual asset freezes of people in russia believed to be responsible for the crisis in crimea. also being considered suspending potentially, nego
lavrov. the two met yesterday in paris. the secretary characterized the talks as constructive. and right now at this moment europe's 28 heads of state are huddling in brussels to discuss how far they are willing to go to punish russia. cnn's erin mclaughlin is there. we understand the eu is talking about freezing the assets of ukraine's former president, viktor yanukovych along with his closest aides. how far are these sanctions that the eu leaders are talking about now, how far are they...
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secretary of state, john kerry, face to face with sergei lavrov. they are both in paris for talks that have been planned before the russian takeover. the talks are so much more urgent. perhaps the most important test yet as to whether dialogue can be used to resolve the crisis in ukraine. in some ways, there have been setbacks. if the us and eu impose sanctions on russia, washington is looking at a series of punitive steps including economic and diplomatic sanctions designed to isolate moscow. no sign either side is backing down from a somewhat polite standoff between russian and ukrainian troops. polite so far. these troops are all armed and the russian forces do remain in effect tiff control of the crimean peninsula. we are covering all the ankles f angles at this hour. elise labott joins us and michael holmes and our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto, joins us from washington. >>> first, elise, i want to speak with you. i understand john kerry has already had a brief meeting with the russian foreign minister, sergei lavrov. they
secretary of state, john kerry, face to face with sergei lavrov. they are both in paris for talks that have been planned before the russian takeover. the talks are so much more urgent. perhaps the most important test yet as to whether dialogue can be used to resolve the crisis in ukraine. in some ways, there have been setbacks. if the us and eu impose sanctions on russia, washington is looking at a series of punitive steps including economic and diplomatic sanctions designed to isolate moscow....
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a lot of pressure being put on sergei lavrov to sit down, at least talk. let's get a dialogue going, wolf. >> elise labott traveling with the secretary of state. we are standing by to hear from john kerry. live coverage of his remarks. we'll see if that meeting takes place with the russian foreign minister. we will see if he agrees to meet with the ukrainian foreign minister who flew from kiev to paris on the secretary's plane. elise labott, stand by. much more coming up. >>> a tense moment here in washington that just occurred on a totally, totally unrelated moment. a tense house oversight hearing involving an agent of the irs, all sounding very familiar. i want to play this clip. >> my counsel has advised my i have not waived my constitutional rights on the filth amendment and on his advice, i will decline to answer any questions on the subject matter of this hearing. >>> we'll go back to the hearing. we are hearing about ukraine right now. here is martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. >>> during our conversations, we committed to de
a lot of pressure being put on sergei lavrov to sit down, at least talk. let's get a dialogue going, wolf. >> elise labott traveling with the secretary of state. we are standing by to hear from john kerry. live coverage of his remarks. we'll see if that meeting takes place with the russian foreign minister. we will see if he agrees to meet with the ukrainian foreign minister who flew from kiev to paris on the secretary's plane. elise labott, stand by. much more coming up. >>> a...
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secretary kerry meeting with his counterparts, sergei lavrov, today. i think that the administration is trying to give putin a way out, what has been described as an off ramp, if you will. it's not clear that russia is going to agree with that. but that is one of the options . and it comes as congress is preparing to take up the issue of sanctions. the house prepared to take up that issue tomorrow. initially it seemed as though they weren't going to take up that issue until next week, but i think there is a real sense of urgency to get something done, to keep the pressure on russia to pull out of ukraine. so you're going to see that debate start to take place tomorrow on the hill. but certainly this is a volatile situation, so i think these conversations are going to continue to go on at the highest levels here at the white house and throughout the administration as they tip to try to deescalate the situation. >> obviously we want to deescalate the situation. but i think russia knows that we're only going to go so far militaril militarily. we won't mee
secretary kerry meeting with his counterparts, sergei lavrov, today. i think that the administration is trying to give putin a way out, what has been described as an off ramp, if you will. it's not clear that russia is going to agree with that. but that is one of the options . and it comes as congress is preparing to take up the issue of sanctions. the house prepared to take up that issue tomorrow. initially it seemed as though they weren't going to take up that issue until next week, but i...
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in addition to sergei lavrov and john kerry, we heard to the e.u.'s katherine ashton, will join sergei lavrov and john kerry in paris. >> there are still protests on the ground, i see, behind you there in kiev. are the people on the square listening or are they concerned about the diplomatic efforts in. >> they are concerned for a variety of reasons. there's a sense here that they may have been taken over by bigger issues, bigger geopolitical issues, and their lives may be in the hands of moscow and washington d.c. we heard when secretary of state john kerry was here yesterday, he went on to the street, he met with people, and they gave him the impression "don't forget, it's about us, we have to live with the consequences, and when you go to paris, take that message with you." >> they gave me a deep personal sense of how closely linked the people of ukraine are to not just americans, but people all across the world who today are asking for their right, for the privilege to live defining their own nation, defining their future. >> now, stephanie, they
in addition to sergei lavrov and john kerry, we heard to the e.u.'s katherine ashton, will join sergei lavrov and john kerry in paris. >> there are still protests on the ground, i see, behind you there in kiev. are the people on the square listening or are they concerned about the diplomatic efforts in. >> they are concerned for a variety of reasons. there's a sense here that they may have been taken over by bigger issues, bigger geopolitical issues, and their lives may be in the...
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sergei lavrov is meeting with the foreign policy chief catherine ashton on tuesday and the e.u. had called for an extraordinary e.u. council meeting on thursday this week live in but then thanks very much indeed for that. well the guardian columnist the guardian newspaper columnist john steele says that john kerry should be criticizing the extremists claiming power in kiev and not . giving themselves out on a limb by making these very threatening noises about expelling russia from the ga trade sanctions and financial penalties and so on naming people who won't be allowed to travel to the west i mean you know russia is an important world power in the west need ships to help with finding a solution to the iranian nuclear issue on the syrian civil war we need russia so to try and you know shut russia out is just absurd to an international relations there are differences between countries you don't just boycott them or through russia's not some tiny country you just push into the corner forget about the american scourge person there and so there. you are very close to too much curre
sergei lavrov is meeting with the foreign policy chief catherine ashton on tuesday and the e.u. had called for an extraordinary e.u. council meeting on thursday this week live in but then thanks very much indeed for that. well the guardian columnist the guardian newspaper columnist john steele says that john kerry should be criticizing the extremists claiming power in kiev and not . giving themselves out on a limb by making these very threatening noises about expelling russia from the ga trade...
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sergey lavrov insisting that his country has a duty to protect ethnic russians in ukraine. donetske, is the home of viktor yanukovych. rory challenge in moscow. let's go to tim friend who is in the ukrainian capital of kiev. this suggesting that russians, the ukrainian defense ministry now being denied from russia. what's the story from where you are tim? >> reporter: well i think everyone has an agenda obviously with this crisis in crimea. and of course, to a certain extent it is in the ukrainians' interest to keep reports of russian aggression or alleged aggression or forthcoming aggression high on the agenda. now, it pa may well frof to be e in the -- prove to be true in the coming hours that russia is going to carry out some kind of ultimatum or fulfill some kind of deadline for ukrainian troops have have been -- who have been surrounded in crimea by pro-russian forces, in their barracks, on their ships, may make good this reported threat which was coming from sources certified the defense ministry here, may make good that, and actually fulfill their plan. but, as you s
sergey lavrov insisting that his country has a duty to protect ethnic russians in ukraine. donetske, is the home of viktor yanukovych. rory challenge in moscow. let's go to tim friend who is in the ukrainian capital of kiev. this suggesting that russians, the ukrainian defense ministry now being denied from russia. what's the story from where you are tim? >> reporter: well i think everyone has an agenda obviously with this crisis in crimea. and of course, to a certain extent it is in the...
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secretary of state john kerry met with russian foreign ministers sergei lavrov in a session that was intended to be about lebanon. >> the suspending u.s.-russia engagement, and suspending g-8 summit. russia made a choice. we believe it is a wrong choice, the choice to move troops into crimea. >> reporter: on wednesday the european union offered ukraine $15 billion in aid. the same amount russia offered the country before former ukrainian president viktor yanukovych ouster. the e.u. plans to meet thursday about the possibility of sanctions but so far the group has treaded lightly. >> crisis diplomacy is not a weakness but it is more important than ever for us not to fall into the abyss of a military escalation not to blunder into this abyss. >> summited osummitvladimir puts unfazed. the u.s. really has little economic leverage. for example, russia and germany have strong economic ties. germany is the biggest importer of russian gas and oil. some of it comes through pop lines across the ukraine. russian supplies account for 36% of all german gas consumption. german leader angela merkel
secretary of state john kerry met with russian foreign ministers sergei lavrov in a session that was intended to be about lebanon. >> the suspending u.s.-russia engagement, and suspending g-8 summit. russia made a choice. we believe it is a wrong choice, the choice to move troops into crimea. >> reporter: on wednesday the european union offered ukraine $15 billion in aid. the same amount russia offered the country before former ukrainian president viktor yanukovych ouster. the e.u....
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highways been meeting with his russian counterpart sergei lavrov. questions being asked, though, it's believed that kerry would address reporters, but you can see nothing was said. we want to bring you up-to-date on what has been happening in ukraine. it has been another day of tense developments. we want to show you a scene outside of a cafe in simfe roopol. he waan u.n. member of the envoy robert surrey being detained, he was taken to the airport and boarded a plane to istanbul. we have received word from nick schifrin on the ground and phil ittner, who is in kiev, is surrey is now headed bac back to kiev to continue his mission from the u.n. >>> we just heard president obama speaking with raising the minimum wage. but all these efforts is being overshadowed by the international front. >> reporter: that's a good point, president obama going forward with these fundraisers virtually every night raising money for the democratic committee and those who stand chance of losing control of the senate, meanwhile, the president balancing that with this cris
highways been meeting with his russian counterpart sergei lavrov. questions being asked, though, it's believed that kerry would address reporters, but you can see nothing was said. we want to bring you up-to-date on what has been happening in ukraine. it has been another day of tense developments. we want to show you a scene outside of a cafe in simfe roopol. he waan u.n. member of the envoy robert surrey being detained, he was taken to the airport and boarded a plane to istanbul. we have...
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russian foreign minister sergei lavrov said discussions will continue in the coming days. >>> u.n. human rights officials say the syrian opposition and government are using tactics that punish civilians. the report said world powers that have helped provide weapons for both sides are responsible for war crimes commit there had. >>> israel said it has seized ashied aship from iran with rocs missiles. they have the range of 100 miles. israel has accused iran of supplying weapons to its enemies and has seized other ships carrying weapons. >>> the trial against an al-qaeda spokesman who was captured in turkey and then brought to the united states is charged with conspiracy to go kill americans after the september 11th attacks. i'm tony harris. if you would like the latest on all of our stories head over to our website at www.aljazeera.com. "real money with ali velshi" is next on al jazeera america. >> in big financial trouble. and we'll talk you inside venezuela where toilet paper is hard to find but gas is practically free. we have a look at a handout that both parties in washington c
russian foreign minister sergei lavrov said discussions will continue in the coming days. >>> u.n. human rights officials say the syrian opposition and government are using tactics that punish civilians. the report said world powers that have helped provide weapons for both sides are responsible for war crimes commit there had. >>> israel said it has seized ashied aship from iran with rocs missiles. they have the range of 100 miles. israel has accused iran of supplying weapons...
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that's why russian mint sergey lavrov: >> ensuring human rights especially the right to life. those who are trying to interpret the situation as a sort of aggression and threatening us with sanctions and boycotts, these are the same partners who have been consistently encouraging the political powers close to them to declare ultimatums and renounce dialogue. >> the consequences are what the west is gathering to discuss. the eu, the u.n, the international monetary fund, all calling emergency meetings to discuss ukraine and secretary of state john kerry is expected in the ukrainian capitol on tuesday. phil itner, al jazeera, kiev. >> we are expecting results in world markets. dow fell 153 points. reaction was more severe in europe. the lon, paris and berlin markets had equal effects. david shuster is here with that part of the fast moving story. david. >> tony, this isn't the first time that vladimir putin has us oil and gas supplies, cutting off gaz supplies to ukraine twice in the last eight years. softened the possible bite out of russia's threat. >>> it's not hard to see why
that's why russian mint sergey lavrov: >> ensuring human rights especially the right to life. those who are trying to interpret the situation as a sort of aggression and threatening us with sanctions and boycotts, these are the same partners who have been consistently encouraging the political powers close to them to declare ultimatums and renounce dialogue. >> the consequences are what the west is gathering to discuss. the eu, the u.n, the international monetary fund, all calling...
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sergei lavrov, the forin minister, in geneva said russia was protecting its interest and russian's citizens that lived in ukraine: >> russia's u.n. ambassador insisted troops in crimea were invited, entering at the request of deposed ukrainian president viktor yanukovych to establish: >> but america's u.n. ambassador samantha power didn't buy it. >> military action cannot be justified on the basis of threats that haven't been made and aren't being carried out. there is no evidence that ethnic russians are in danger. >> meanwhile at the white house president obama warned russia that the u.s. and russian allies were making preparations of their own. >> we are examining a whole series of steps - economic, diplomatic - that will isolate russia, and will have a negative impact on russia's economy, and its sta
sergei lavrov, the forin minister, in geneva said russia was protecting its interest and russian's citizens that lived in ukraine: >> russia's u.n. ambassador insisted troops in crimea were invited, entering at the request of deposed ukrainian president viktor yanukovych to establish: >> but america's u.n. ambassador samantha power didn't buy it. >> military action cannot be justified on the basis of threats that haven't been made and aren't being carried out. there is no...
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secretary of state john kerry met with russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov in paris. kerry described the meeting as constructive, but there was no diplomatic solution. barnaby phillips reports. >> a long day of diplomacy in paris brought no concrete results. if at the end john kerry hinted at progress in his talks with his counterpart sergei lavrov, he also said it's a difficult process. >> russia made is a choice and we have clearly stated that we believe it is the wrong choice, that is the choice to move troops into crimea. russia can now choose to de-escalate the situation, and we are committed to working with russia and together with our friends and allies, in an effort to provide a way for this entire situation to find the road to deescalation. >> foreign ministers originally agreed to come to par toys talk about the syrian war and its impact on lebanon. that conflict has been overshadowed by events in ukraine. >> all the activity at the palace suggests a willingness for dialogue. but the gulf interception is vast. russia considers the new government in kiev ille
secretary of state john kerry met with russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov in paris. kerry described the meeting as constructive, but there was no diplomatic solution. barnaby phillips reports. >> a long day of diplomacy in paris brought no concrete results. if at the end john kerry hinted at progress in his talks with his counterpart sergei lavrov, he also said it's a difficult process. >> russia made is a choice and we have clearly stated that we believe it is the wrong...
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., the foreign secretary, and also the ukrainian -- he invited sergey lavrov, to join them as part of this budapest amendment, what he was hoping would be part of a diplomatic way forward. but the russian foreign minister declined to attend the meeting, citing scheduling conflicts. even as the u.s. pushes for this diplomatic way forward, it's looking very rough, wolf. >> looking very rough indeed. so he has wrapped up his talks. the u.s., and correct me if i am wrong, it does formally recognize this new interim government in kiev, the government that replaced the ousted president as the legitimate government of ukraine, right? >> reporter: that's right. it doesn't recognize president yanukovych as the president of ukraine any longer, even though that's what the russians are recognizing. secretary kerry met with many members of the new government, members of the parliament and said that the u.s. wants to help them move towards the elections they'll be having. in may, they'll be training, and they also announced a very robust aid package for ukraine to the tune of $1 billion loan guaran
., the foreign secretary, and also the ukrainian -- he invited sergey lavrov, to join them as part of this budapest amendment, what he was hoping would be part of a diplomatic way forward. but the russian foreign minister declined to attend the meeting, citing scheduling conflicts. even as the u.s. pushes for this diplomatic way forward, it's looking very rough, wolf. >> looking very rough indeed. so he has wrapped up his talks. the u.s., and correct me if i am wrong, it does formally...
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secretary of state john kerry meets in paris with his russian counterpart sergey lavrov who says all parties agree to hold intense talks to try to overcome the crisis. defense secretary hagel takes heat up on capitol hill but says the u.s. is suspending military exercises with russia and will step up training with poland's military. we have full coverage beginning with our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto here tw latest. jim? >> i think you could say today we saul the full yin and yang of the u.s. policy response to the crisis in crimea. on the other side, secretary of defense chuck hagel demonstrating the u.s. commitment to its nato allies with the deployment of some aircraft and the cancellation-of nato contacts with russia. on the diplomatic side, we saw the opening of a diplomatic path to solving the crisis, the so-called off ramp u.s. officials have mentioned before, still undefined, kerry said, but a start. >> reporter: u.s. and russian diplomats face to face for the first time since the start of the crisis in crimea. secretary of state john kerry said they are
secretary of state john kerry meets in paris with his russian counterpart sergey lavrov who says all parties agree to hold intense talks to try to overcome the crisis. defense secretary hagel takes heat up on capitol hill but says the u.s. is suspending military exercises with russia and will step up training with poland's military. we have full coverage beginning with our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto here tw latest. jim? >> i think you could say today we saul the...
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now, russian foreign minister sergei lavrov is unlikely to see it that way. he's already decided the russian troops occupiesing crimea. he's described the soldiers as being a self-defense force over which russia has no influence. the attention today will be on a meeting of eu leaders in brussels. they have been very reluctant to back stiff sanctions against moscow. they have a lot more to lose than the u.s. they come up with a package of economic support, but have been very wary of sanctions. moscow, of course, will be watching that closely. so will washington. whether or not the latest developments from crimea concentrates minds, we'll have to see, tamron. >>> we want to take you back to the developing news out of the maryland where the cpac conference is under way. mark murray is standing by. he is in washington. mark, are you there? >> hey, tamron. >> let's talk about first of after senator mitch mcconnell. we know he will be in a big political battle in the midterm, but he walked in entered the room with a reichel in hand handing it to tom coburn and actu
now, russian foreign minister sergei lavrov is unlikely to see it that way. he's already decided the russian troops occupiesing crimea. he's described the soldiers as being a self-defense force over which russia has no influence. the attention today will be on a meeting of eu leaders in brussels. they have been very reluctant to back stiff sanctions against moscow. they have a lot more to lose than the u.s. they come up with a package of economic support, but have been very wary of sanctions....
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. >> del, sergey lavrov may say there are no troops, but as far as the west is concerned those are russian troops. it appears as though the tactic is going to be economic. here is what the european commission president had to say today. >> today the european commission has identified a package to support ukraine. this is our contribution to tomorrow meetings of the sitting government. the package combined could bring an overall support of at least 11 billion euros over the next couple of years, from european budget and european union international financial institutions. it is a package designed to assist a committed includive and reforms oriented ukrainian government. >> well, 11 billion euros is about $15 billion. exactly what the kremlin offered ukraine before this whole thing started to stay away from the eu, and the europeans are saying they are going to create a free trade zone effective immediately. and they intend to freeze the assets of those in previous regime, and return that to the ukraine. >> there are still demonstrators gathered behind you, what are they saying about this la
. >> del, sergey lavrov may say there are no troops, but as far as the west is concerned those are russian troops. it appears as though the tactic is going to be economic. here is what the european commission president had to say today. >> today the european commission has identified a package to support ukraine. this is our contribution to tomorrow meetings of the sitting government. the package combined could bring an overall support of at least 11 billion euros over the next...
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. >> as you know, john kerry meeting with sergei lavrov in rome and they have yet to agree with getting russians and ukrainian acting government together. if they are not going to meet, it's unclear how this could ever be mediated. >> that's right. that's really a big disappoint here in kiev, where the foreign minister, the new foreign minister of ukraine, having traveled with john kerry, had high hopes of being able to sit down with his russian counterpart and start to talk the matters through. without talking about it, without beginning say discussion, it's very difficult to see how they can go anyway towards finding a solution and of course we still see sergei lavrov speaking almost a different language. he's still denying that those soldiers occupying crimea are russian soldiers insisting they are an independent defense force acting beyond the reach of russia. a very difficult situation and one which is being watched anxiously here in ukraine, which has denounced today's move, today's announcement of a referendum as illegal. as of course has the e.u. but all eyes on today's meeting
. >> as you know, john kerry meeting with sergei lavrov in rome and they have yet to agree with getting russians and ukrainian acting government together. if they are not going to meet, it's unclear how this could ever be mediated. >> that's right. that's really a big disappoint here in kiev, where the foreign minister, the new foreign minister of ukraine, having traveled with john kerry, had high hopes of being able to sit down with his russian counterpart and start to talk the...
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secretary john kerry's meetling this hour with his russian counterpart, sergey lavrov, earlier today, they had a brief discussion in which secretary kerry urged direct talks between russia and the ukraine. according to a senior state department official. >> united states of america, the russian federation, and the united kingdom of great britain reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the ukraine. there are very clear legal obligations that are at risk in this, and we're going to talk about those this morning. >> andrea, as i said, is traveling with secretary kerry and filed this report from paris today. >> chris, here in paris, john kerry has a very tough diplomatic game. he's playing all the angles. he's trying, first of all, to rally the allies, trying to get them to hang tough against vladimir putin. here in europe, where, of course, they all dependent on russia for their energy, for less expensive natural gas. so some, including germany, are a little more reluctant to be tough with vladimi
secretary john kerry's meetling this hour with his russian counterpart, sergey lavrov, earlier today, they had a brief discussion in which secretary kerry urged direct talks between russia and the ukraine. according to a senior state department official. >> united states of america, the russian federation, and the united kingdom of great britain reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the ukraine....
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. >> i want to start with the meeting between secretary kerry and the russian counterpart, sergey lavrov. we also had the phone call the president had with angela merkel, but let me start with kerry and lavrov. what do they say to each other? what's critical right now? >> first of all, the fact they are meeting is a good sign. they have developed a cordial relationship. i've been in many meetings with them and the fact they are talking leads open the possibility of this off-ramp that you mentioned and that the president and the administration is trying to provide for putin. i don't think there will be any break ththroughs today, i think it's early for that, but you will hear about the consequences, economic consequences of continuing this and foreign minister lavrov, just the justification for it all. resolution will come later in this crisis. if it comes at all. >> meantime, simultaneously, you have secretary kerry talking to a lot, frankly, of foreign counterparts. here's some of the criticism that we've been hearing. this one from congressman mike rogers. >> right now, putin has set t
. >> i want to start with the meeting between secretary kerry and the russian counterpart, sergey lavrov. we also had the phone call the president had with angela merkel, but let me start with kerry and lavrov. what do they say to each other? what's critical right now? >> first of all, the fact they are meeting is a good sign. they have developed a cordial relationship. i've been in many meetings with them and the fact they are talking leads open the possibility of this off-ramp...
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of talks in paris on wednesday to try to find an exit strategy in ukraine russian foreign minister sergei lavrov when us kids they don't carry but stressed the need to continue donald but no substantial agreements were made and has no direct meeting between the fall and spring income for twelve point three just activity came this makes the structure of suspending realty corporation and the european union offered fifteen begin dollars in aid to kiev matching no contest to what president viktor yanukovich accepted from moscow to turn his back on in the new association. as you the premise that the new me under the sun that we can all but the research cooperation agreement with the u s state of california california government carrie brownstein of the deal with them when to stop states to tap into israel's technological success with water conservation. netanyahu who has dubbed israel and innovation nation elected california on tuesday walking to the previous day with president obama. the pac ten hours off than if we are content there were all of his government planned to seize the ship contai
of talks in paris on wednesday to try to find an exit strategy in ukraine russian foreign minister sergei lavrov when us kids they don't carry but stressed the need to continue donald but no substantial agreements were made and has no direct meeting between the fall and spring income for twelve point three just activity came this makes the structure of suspending realty corporation and the european union offered fifteen begin dollars in aid to kiev matching no contest to what president viktor...
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sergei lavrov says he has to go back to russia now to confirm the format. you can make that decision on the ground, you can make a phone call back to moscow. it appears they're dragging this out. you know, talking about what russia has accomplished here, steven hadly, former national security advisor for president bush was on the air last night. he made a good point about the strategy. it's not just about military action, it's about russia establishing question marks in various countries. they did the in georgia, they had the two breakaway provinces, they're doing it now here that makes it impossible for a country like ukraine to join the eu or nato. >> so the more ambiguous you make it, the better it is for russia. and that's the problem that they're confronting in the administration. >> the president was pretty blunt right now. he didn't want to take questions from reporters leaving that to his white house press secretary, jay carney. but the president says there will be a cost on russia. he's confident the allies can work together. and as far as the unit
sergei lavrov says he has to go back to russia now to confirm the format. you can make that decision on the ground, you can make a phone call back to moscow. it appears they're dragging this out. you know, talking about what russia has accomplished here, steven hadly, former national security advisor for president bush was on the air last night. he made a good point about the strategy. it's not just about military action, it's about russia establishing question marks in various countries. they...
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. >> russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov, did not attend the morning meeting, but he is expected to meet face to face with secretary kerry later today. before heading to paris, kerry stopped in kiev where he unveiled a billion-dollar aid package for ukraine and met with interim leaders, including the acting foreign minister who travelled to paris for the u.n. meeting. more on that from nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. andrea? >> reporter: what kerry is trying to do by bringing him here to paris is elevate him, give him legitimacy, and help him stand up to russia, and help persuade his colleagues they should avoid any military confrontation that would give putin a pretext to move further into ukraine. and frankly, that is what u.s. officials think is really putin's end game. they believe that he does want to take over ukraine, but this is part of his grand vision to re-create what was lost with the end of the soviet union, to re-create a russian federation that is really an empire. they don't know how to deter him from this, and that, of course, what pres
. >> russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov, did not attend the morning meeting, but he is expected to meet face to face with secretary kerry later today. before heading to paris, kerry stopped in kiev where he unveiled a billion-dollar aid package for ukraine and met with interim leaders, including the acting foreign minister who travelled to paris for the u.n. meeting. more on that from nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. andrea? >> reporter: what kerry is...
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sergey lavrov defended russia's action by saying they're defending the fundamental right to light of -- right to life of the ethnic russians in those areas. is there any evidence that that is the case? >> i would not say that the lawlessness that does exist in some major cities is targeted toward russians or russian speakers. it's very difficult to distinguish who is russian and who is not. people generally here think of themselves as ukrainians and they can hold multiple identities, both as russians and as ukrainians at the same time. the relationship is so close. so i don't think it's targeted in that way. but there is clearly a spike of disorder and lawlessness that everyone is suffering under. >> nicolai petro, thank you so much for joining me. >> sure. >> joining me now is michael mcfaul, just stepped down last week as u.s. ambassador to russia. he's professor of political science at stanford university. ambassador, what is the next step here? it seems that this has escalated tremendously quickly. what do you see as being the next step either from the u.s., nato and the e.u. or
sergey lavrov defended russia's action by saying they're defending the fundamental right to light of -- right to life of the ethnic russians in those areas. is there any evidence that that is the case? >> i would not say that the lawlessness that does exist in some major cities is targeted toward russians or russian speakers. it's very difficult to distinguish who is russian and who is not. people generally here think of themselves as ukrainians and they can hold multiple identities, both...
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of talks in paris on wednesday to try to find an exit strategy in ukraine russian foreign minister sergei lavrov when us kids they don't carry but stressed the need to continue donald but no substantial agreements were made and has no direct meeting between the fall and spring income for twelve point three just activity came this makes the structure of suspending realty corporation and e
of talks in paris on wednesday to try to find an exit strategy in ukraine russian foreign minister sergei lavrov when us kids they don't carry but stressed the need to continue donald but no substantial agreements were made and has no direct meeting between the fall and spring income for twelve point three just activity came this makes the structure of suspending realty corporation and e
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in their face-to-face meeting, secretary kerry told russian foreign minister sergey lavrov that there is a way out of the crisis. russia must return its troops to bases in crimea. allow international observers into the region. and recognize ukraine's upcoming elections to establish a new government. it was the first time the former cold war adversaries had met since russia defied president obama's demand to halt its invasion of the crimean peninsula. >> we agreed to continue intense discussions in the coming days with russia, with the ukrainians, in order to see how we can help normalize the situation, stabilize it, and overcome the crisis. >> reporter: yesterday, kerry was more pessimistic about russia's military plans for ukraine. i asked him today if he still has the same feeling. he said no. but he views it as progress that russia has not flat out refused to negotiate. >> pelley: margaret brennan covering the talks in paris. thanks, margaret. today, in south africa, evidence mounted against track star oscar pistorius, famous for running on prosthetic blades after losing his legs a
in their face-to-face meeting, secretary kerry told russian foreign minister sergey lavrov that there is a way out of the crisis. russia must return its troops to bases in crimea. allow international observers into the region. and recognize ukraine's upcoming elections to establish a new government. it was the first time the former cold war adversaries had met since russia defied president obama's demand to halt its invasion of the crimean peninsula. >> we agreed to continue intense...
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lavrov appearing at one of the american protest rallies let's say occupy wall street rally and handing out caviar and let's say bought go to the protesters how would that be perceived well i think you i think you having trouble understanding that you have a repressive government in ukraine there's not a repressive government in washington who well life and you let you know you're still interested you're going to minute you us me question well some people take an issue over the people who take a little of it or people who represent authoritarian regimes you're probably perhaps as you were a newscaster and the country was that which is authoritarian and therefore you don't want to see a democratic country on your on your doorstep a democratic country in ukraine well in fact i believe that i leave in a democratic country i understand why you have to say you live in a democratic country just soviet soviet general source where the say that and we knew was not true that we know it's not true no but what will go regarding regarding the united states in the demonstrations in ukraine tauriel nu
lavrov appearing at one of the american protest rallies let's say occupy wall street rally and handing out caviar and let's say bought go to the protesters how would that be perceived well i think you i think you having trouble understanding that you have a repressive government in ukraine there's not a repressive government in washington who well life and you let you know you're still interested you're going to minute you us me question well some people take an issue over the people who take a...